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Offline Hayha

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Ban Appeal - Greybeard [rejected]
« on: September 20, 2015, 02:20:02 AM »
As Greybeard couldn't signed up on forums i'm doing instead of him

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What was the name you were banned under? Teutonic_Greybeard

When were you banned? 20.9.2015

What server were you banned from?IG_BG

Who banned you? IG_Oliveran

Why were you banned? There was a situation. That's why I joined to TS to solve it. I was abused by told that something like "why are you here". So I said a swearword and disconnected. Then I was banned from the server, it's the reason I believe so.

Why should we expect that you have changed/will behave differently? I didn't teamkill anyone on server intentionally and I didn't swear to people. And I 'll not if you unban me because it's not my style. And I won't join to your TS again.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2015, 01:28:08 AM by SCGavin »

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Re: Greybeard's Ban Appeal
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2015, 12:54:42 AM »
It's not your style, but you come to swear at someone who according to all witnesses said you were aggressive and angry in tone, while Kiron were being both calmn and collected. I wasn't there, but coming to teamspeak and swear, curse and say bad things isn't 'I didn't swear to people'.

Being honest about the situation at hand will give you a good chance at being unbanned, but you must first understand that doing what you did is by NO means okay - and understand WHY it's not okay.


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Re: Greybeard's Ban Appeal
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2015, 09:57:11 PM »
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firstly sorry for my english.
as you said you werent ts when we were talking.i just entered your teamspeak for explain the situation that i have witnessed because i heard Toi was in teamspeak(we played in same teams before) also i know Kiron a bit.Anyway i wanted to calm around like a peacemaker but their attitude wasnt good (i am pretty sure they can confirm this because they said after i talked twice ''we were so angry because we talked this like 30 mins so stfu your mouth'')they said not good things so i got angry said f*** your admin rights in turkish and left teamspeak.i am not sorry about my behavior.swearing people is in the same class with being so rude againts who is trying to fix problems.you need to be more objective in this incident.

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Re: Greybeard's Ban Appeal
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2015, 10:22:31 PM »
Okay i will explain all situation. I was playing on server and i saw a poll which is not usual and it seemed like poll abuse in first place. Because Opener of the Poll was the friend of the person which he want to kick. So i waited 30 sec to explain his reason i didn't see any (cos he didn't write) i pressed f6 and poll rejected by me. After that he explained the reason. Reason was they were kicking each other and one died because of that. I warned both of them and said "Please do not engage each other and don't kick each other" after that AZAP said (the person who opened poll) Won't you do something (He wanted me to kick Alpaslan_) and i said "i did what i should  lion (i wrote lion cos AZAP  was my friend)"  and AZAP wrote F**k your lion. he didn't write F**k directly but he mentioned that and he admitted that on ts3 whatever i didn't kick him or ban him just warned him about his language and said "please mind your language". After Emir couldn't resist this insult and opened a poll to kick AZAP. I didn't accept it as admin or reject it. Just pressed my poll as normal player. Poll rejected by server. After that AZAP came IG's ts3 to ask as why did you open that poll with very flaming attitude. Toi Emir and I were on ts3. We explained him very gently and he left with peace.  After that Greybeard asked to come ts3 like "yo i heard there is a situation here i want to come ts3" we accepted him. And he wasn't like peacemaker more like hold responsible. I explained him situation without saying any "STFU or like" after that Toi explained situation and Greybeard wasn't so nice on us. You know the rest already.

So i'm saying we didn't say ANY bad words to him but he did. They came to our teamspeak because they were thinking i abused my right BUT when i showed them logs they couldn't even reject it. So you are lying about we said "Stfu" or another bad words. We just said "we explained you situation so please don't open this subject again" and you yelled on us "f**k your admin rights and some more then left the ts3.  And why did you even said that? i don't know  :huh?: I didn't even kick anyone or ban. Just explained you server rules and what i should.

You must be honest when you open a ban appeal.
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22:19:56 - Crusader_Max left the server.
22:19:56 -  <img=ico_headshot> Wonwokie_King_CommanderSPQR
22:20:01 - [IG_Esq_Kiron] İkiniz de birbirinze vurmayın temasta bulunmayın.
22:20:02 - Teutonic_AZAP team hit IG_Rct_Echelon. (42 dmg points)
22:20:04 - [Teutonic_AZAP] kiron gerekenin yapılmasını istiyorum
22:20:04 - DeathAngel <img=ico_spear> SG_Ebdanian_Admiral
22:20:06 - baka_desu_ka <img=ico_headshot> Tomayus
22:20:12 - [IG_Esq_Kiron] gerekeni yaptım aslan.
22:20:14 - Pez <img=ico_spear> GANDALF_TheDead
22:20:16 - Teutonic_Cara <img=ico_swordone> Dagger_of_CrestGrath
22:20:16 - IG_Rct_Echelon <img=ico_swordone> AE_Waurio
22:20:16 - IG_Grd_Melanippe <img=ico_swordone> CYKA_Razor
22:20:16 - IG_Rct_Echelon team hit Prusak. (79 dmg points)
22:20:18 - IG_Limaui has joined the game with ID: 1771643 from 88.134.35.82
22:20:21 - [Teutonic_AZAP] aslanını***
« Last Edit: September 21, 2015, 10:35:57 PM by Kironn »

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Re: Greybeard's Ban Appeal
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2015, 10:50:51 PM »
As someone who was present during the incident, I also wanna give my side of the story. I wasn't on the server when the stuff about AZAP happened, so I don't know that part. By the time it happened I just joined the server and saw my friends playing on it. I checked IG ts as they were all there and joined them. Echelon explained that AZAP wanted to come to the ts so we said he can. I think he was mad at Emir for creating the poll. Emir told him his reason which Kiron mentioned on his post. Then AZAP told us that he didn't like the attitude when Kiron called him a lion. Kiron shared the logs and explained him his reason for rejecting the poll AZAP made on AlpAslan, which I believe was well warranted; given we all knew AZAP and AlpAslan were friends from previous clans and it probably was a poll abuse. On the server AZAP had failed to give a reason for making the poll too by the way. To solve this weird problem properly Emir said he was sorry and then we managed to solve the problem peacefully. I think AZAP left the teamspeak as happy as he would and we tought this situation, which we believed was totally nonsense, over. Then Echelon told us, this time Greybeard wanted to come to teamspeak and after being have to explain this "unimportant nonsense" to AZAP for over 20 minutes we were literally tired. Even though we were tired, we still did explain the situation to him too and then he lost his temper and said "İyiki bir admin olmuşsunuz amına koyayım." on the teamspeak and left. Basically meaning, Kiron got arrogant because he was an admin now and therefore he was abusing it. Last two words mean, "I put it in your pussy" by the way and it is considered to be very rude by the Turks. After then, we just called Oli and had him banned for this.

Also another thing: Yes we were on the teamspeak but none of us said anything that resembles "STFU" by any means. We just explained the situation as anyone who had to explain this nonsense for 20-30 mins. Nothing offensive in our language which all of us can confirm. I also want to add that I have no problem with AZAP, Greybeard or Airelhach and I've known them for a long time now. I also think that at least AZAP exaggerated the situation regarding Kirons refusal of a poll too much. I too would have considered a poll being made after some player kicking another player on the server, to be a troll poll, knowing that these 2 players played together for a long time. In the light of what I have learnt so far by just being present I believe, Kiron's call to reject the poll that caused this problem to be warranted completely.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2015, 11:03:41 PM by Toi »
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Re: Greybeard's Ban Appeal
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2015, 03:11:50 PM »
With enough people present to make us believe that GreyBeard's explanation of the situation was a lie - would you care to explain, please, GreyBeard?


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Re: Greybeard's Ban Appeal
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2015, 11:47:41 PM »
there is no actual proof there so you will believe your clan member ofc so i cant prove myself whatever i do or whatever i say any ig member around here -i dont need to already- as you can see -the simplest- from taleworlds forum. http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,340116.90.html.instant judging from a situation that hasnt proved yet.i did not even see his name before.though actual event was his behaivor there.

i am writing this paragraph not because of being unbanned i just dont want to be seem like the person that you want to show me to other person like a liar or a quitter.i stand by my words,always.please dont get bigger the situation because i dont want to waste my time anymore for this nonsense issue

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Offline SCGavin

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Re: Greybeard's Ban Appeal
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2015, 01:26:24 AM »
The only thing that link shows is that you are not prepared to change. Appeal rejected and thread locked.
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